http://cpp.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#2e2764d1-28c3-4708-9a22-b724b31c0e65 Ha... actually I'm thinking Python :) Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:16:45 GMT http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#2e2764d1-28c3-4708-9a22-b724b31c0e65 $item.owner.firstName 2008-04-14T18:16:45Z http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#63efe9e4-59b1-4046-b1f5-010ac721aa27 Depends. Does the guitar player know only one chord? Then that would be Java. Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:59:47 GMT http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#63efe9e4-59b1-4046-b1f5-010ac721aa27 Hypno 2008-03-25T07:59:47Z http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#a99fe2f8-9b51-46ed-bc37-f3fb93540d61 Eric, Said comrade left a few months ago, so i'm responsible for my client (C++) as well as his server (J2EE) now. Having had the displeasure of working through JBoss, JGroups, etc., I can categorically say that C++ is far, far, far more metal than Java will ever be. This J2EE stuff just seems overblown and far too complex for what it does (monitor Apache instances via SNMP and order a list of URLs to return to the client). Heck, I wrote a Perl script that did the SNMP monitoring in a couple of hours, and Perl isn't exactly light, either. *sigh* Sadly, I doubt i'll get the opportunity to rewrite the J2EE stuff, so i'll have to deal with it :-( Regards, John, who thinks Java / J2EE is like corporate / committee rock, while C++ is like the fastest speed metal around Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:03:09 GMT http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#a99fe2f8-9b51-46ed-bc37-f3fb93540d61 John Michael 2008-03-25T02:03:09Z http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#a51268f9-8b34-4250-8a78-cd8acf30aee3 DIY memory management is way more metal that relying on the mad to collect it for you Sat, 26 May 2007 13:42:24 GMT http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#a51268f9-8b34-4250-8a78-cd8acf30aee3 $item.owner.firstName 2007-05-26T13:42:24Z http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#73b5cb53-8214-4463-8529-720a34e4be5c Hello, all ... As frivolous an exercise as it may seem, I (developing the client piece of an app) am engaged with a comrade (developing the server piece of the same app) on this topic: Which language is more "metal" e.g. which language would the members of DethKlok (http://www.adultswim.com/shows/metal/) code in, should they choose to? Defending C++, I submit that it is more metal, due to the following: 1. it has crosses in the name, and everyone knows that crosses are way more metal than coffee 2. C++ developers generally code more to the "metal" (or wire) than Java developers 3. C++ has DESTRUCTORs, which just sounds way more metal than Java's "finalize" 4. C++ can be brutal, with pointers to const members, changing vtables, etc. My coworker claims that Java is actually more metal, but I can't remember any of his reasons ;-) Thoughts? Regards, John Falling You - exploring the beauty of voice and sound http://www.fallingyou.com Thu, 24 May 2007 22:05:45 GMT http://CPP.tribe.net/thread/4b38ca44-9571-4a77-b9cc-18416a9bbe71#73b5cb53-8214-4463-8529-720a34e4be5c John Michael 2007-05-24T22:05:45Z